08 February 2009


For a country with 20% of the worlds population is it really okay for us to use 80% of the worlds resources? Is it really okay for us to have families that are 10-12-14+ children while other countries implement family size mandates and enforce them brutally? Maybe it's just me...but do we REALLY need to breed so furiously when there are MILLIONS of orphans in the world without parents? I applaud those with 'larger' families that were built through biology AND adoption, but those who choose to reproduce so irresponsibly just make me cringe.
The woman who gave birth to OCTUPLETS this month is case and point of such irresponsibility...no I don't judge her because she chose to have babies while being single, there are plenty of wonderful single parents raising healthy well adjusted children...but seriously, who puts their life at risk by implanting so many embryos at once, who puts the lives of EIGHT babies at risk and who puts the welfare of the SIX children at home at risk...
INSANE
these women have more people pass through them than Heathrow at Christmas time!
does GLOBAL RESPONSIBILITY mean anything?

13 comments:

Jodi and Dennis said...

My sentiments exactly! After 5 miscarriages, one special needs adoption in the works, and three rounds of fertility, I gave birth to a healthy baby girl last year. I know the struggle it takes bringing one healthy child into the world and the toll it took on my body to get her here. I never cared if my I had 10 kids, and nine were adopted, specials needs or not. I wanted the experience. Call that selfish if you will. I might not even disagree with you.

I do love the Duggar poster, saw that a while ago and now that is my motto for the gal who gave birth to the octuplets. WTF is she thinking? I have one child and an adoption on the way and I never want to be a single parent, ever. I am actually much nicer to my husband now that we are parents for the sake of him leaving me. (kidding of course.)

The Duggars make me ill. Did you happen to catch the episode of the Jim Bob and his wife going to San Fransisco for their anniversary and didn't know what a "marijuana pipe" was? while they were taking pictures of bums living on the street? Someone stop me here! I was in disbelief. How ignorant can one be? I have to tell myself it is idiots like this who can have kids so easily because no social worker in the world would allow them to adopt.

It's crap like this and the man who had a child and is having another one, (who is not a man by the way. I know he has a uterus and maybe even a vagina) that makes a mockery of women who actually struggle with fertility.

I will get off my soap box now. We enjoy you and your blog. You're a riot!

Carrie said...

Well I do agree to some points of this and some I have to say I am glad My great grand mother had 14 children. Half were born in Italy and half in America. My grandmother was number 14. So not to sure if I would be born or not if USA chose to put a band on more than a few per family. But truly can't imagen 14 kids. How do you really spend time with each one. how can and give that personal attention they need? Great post gets you thinking!
hugs
Carrie

Snowflowers Mum said...

hey Carrie...in our grandparents era it was a different story, it was more about mortality and preservation of family and the need to have help on the farm etc...now it's a whole different kettle of fish...the world is straining like a pair of Oprah's long and lean jeans!

James Michael said...

My thoughts are the same sista...

Carrie said...

Oh yes, I agree! There has to be a limit some were. But I hope it is not one child per couple. Plus we need to start thinking about this Earth we are taking for granted. My favorite shirt is THE HIPPES WERE RIGHT, I get alot of comments about it here in FL. My brother and his wife can't have children and they chose not to do all this stuff to get a bio child, they are looking into adoption now. I have never had to wrestle with the not having a bio child but losing two children one bio(miscarriage) and one adopted I can tell you they are both worth every bit of everything I have. I think if we all started making better choices with our electric (we have solar pannels-helps a bunch) and Gas and plastics, turn lights off when not used it makes a big difference. We went down like $200 in electric uses, just by turning things off and stop over using our heating and air. plus did you know every fan in the house that is on 24hours is 6 dollars per month! it crazy I have like 7 fans in my house I turned them all off! ok sorry I will get off my soap box!

Snowflowers Mum said...

carrie, I agree...family size laws are harsh and not democratic, what we need is education and a higher level of glabal conscienceness...hopefully then people will make the right decision.

Brownie Troop 157 said...

I'm single and I adopted 3 yrs ago. Had thoughts of going for #2 until China banned me. At first I was bummed, but now I think its for the best. We wouldn't have the same quality of life if we had more children in the family. Both for financial reasons and logistical reasons. The woman who just had 8? She's truly nuts. We think that she secretly thinks she's angelina Jolie. Big fat fake lips, straight dyed black hair, and lots of kids. Very sad.

I also feel sorry for that crazy dugger family. Dad's an egomaniacal A**hole, mom needs to grow a spine and close her legs, and they seem more like a cult than a family. I hope all those beautiful kids don't get screwed up in the process.

Snowflowers Mum said...

Carol...I had the same 'Jolie' discussion with friends, looks like she's had some work done to look like Ang.

Sad.

JMCS said...

I love that picture. I have seen it before and just love it. How can people afford to pay for college educations, weddings, etc. with that many and also it must be hard to have one on one time with each one.

bytheriver said...

Yes, I can't begin to work this one out in my mind. For the family in the picture, I understand its a matter in part of religious beliefs - I support the right of everyone to have their own beliefs, but still am concerned that all the kids get what they need - how can they - and that the mother is somehow either an amazon or about to drop due to physical depletion of so msny pregnancies one after another.

As for the other person from my hometown - gag - while I support a persons right to build a family however they chose, and while we went through a similar process (unsuccessful), it seems incredibly irresponsible to be a single parent, living with your parents, jobless and on disability and bring 14 kids into the world on the public dime. I must say that social services should keep a close eye on this family and this person needs counseling or more. It may be that the best thing for these kids, who may have serious medical issues due to premature birth, would be to adopt them out to parents with the resources to raise them. There is a separate question of medical responsibility in allowing implantation of 6 kids. I understand she wanted her best chance at a healthy child and did not want to terminate any pregnancy, but also that she is young and may have many more chances to concieve - YIKES! Struggling against legislating fertility, but seeing the need for reason in some instances. Just like parenting classes or qualifications - its tempting to want to have some assurances that a parent has the potential to be a good parent.

Carrie said...

had to show my husband your post. He really thought it was funny- the picture not the subject!

Jodi and Dennis said...

bytheriver,
Yes! How can a mother have any type of real relationship with her children if you have that many. Where is the bonding, the 1 on 1's, the individual problem solving, how are you taking care of them when they are sick with so many distractions, what about the undivided attention?

While all the little kids have older kids as "buddies" and have assigned "chores". Don't get me wrong chores are a good thing, but to let the "chores" overtake a childhood b/c as a mother/parents can not take on the duties because their is so much to do and so many to take care of that you can't get it done otherwise. It is painful to watch.

They live with blinders on and somehow that seems to work for them. Let's all make a deal, and come back here in 20 years and find out what happened to these kids..;)

Darlene said...

I'd like to know how these kids can look so relaxed and happy. How can you get all the little ones to sit there, be still, and smile into the camera and smile naturally?

I have to commend the mom and dad for their dedication. This is the other side of Pro Choice. They chose to give birth to these children and I have nothing but admiration for them.

I guess it's their choice, and who am I to judge the choice they made?

Thanks for bringing this up though..as we all have our own thoughts and opinions on families like these.